Posts by Doug Mason

It was penned some 50 years after he died, and a forger made out that it was written by Paul. That was the only way he could get his abominable position accepted.

The writer of Ephesians was wrong, but it was not Paul who wrote it.

The decision on the writings that would make up the NT was not made until the 4th century, and the Roman Emperors at the time were involved. Their acceptance of Ephesians was not their only mistake.

Doug

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"the wife should have deep respect for her husband" (Eph 5:33)

by Wonderment in

does anyone here think this command still applies in force today as it did 2000 years ago?.

Doug Mason

Women were a part of the group of disciples who followed Jesus as he preached. The Scripture makes it plain that the women provided the financial support to Jesus and his followers:

Jesus traveled about from one town and village to another, proclaiming the good news of the kingdom of God. The Twelve were with him, and also some women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases: Mary (called Magdalene) from whom seven demons had come out; Joanna the wife of Cuza, the manager of Herod’shousehold; Susanna; and many others. These women were helping to support them out of their own means. (Luke 8:1-3, NIV)

Doug

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"the wife should have deep respect for her husband" (Eph 5:33)

by Wonderment in

does anyone here think this command still applies in force today as it did 2000 years ago?.

Doug Mason

Paul wrote that in God's sight, "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus". (Gal 3:28, NIV)

Paul used women in important roles.

Ephesians was written near the end of the first century, about 50 years after Paul died. It was written by a mysoginist who wanted to get his ideas accepted, so he pretended that the letter to the Ephesians was written by Paul.

This unacceptable process of forgery, of pretending that Paul wrote things that he did not write, happened with other NT writings, including Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 and 2 Timothy, Titus and Hebrews.

For example, since Paul fully expected Jesus to return in his own day, while he was still alive, he urged people not to marry, nor was he concerned at organisational structure. However, towards the end of the first century, when it became painfully aware that Paul's expectations of an imminent return would not be fulfilled, the ecclesias started to speak about organising theselves (elders, etc.), even saying that the leader had to be married; they also tried to silence women and told them their purpose was to be subservient and pregnant.

Thus, not only did these later ideas not come from Paul, and are contrary to his teachings, they were fraudently put forward as having been written by Paul.

Doug

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Why I Shouldn't Believe in the Resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth

by XJW4EVR in

when i was a jw, the key issue that caused me to doubt the wt was the trinity.

the wtb&ts's blatent misquotations and misrepresentations of religious scholarship to fit their anti-trinitarian presuppositions are horrid and inexcusable.

that issue, however, was not the issue that caused me to become a christian.

Doug Mason

http://www.jwstudies.com/Spong_resurrection_ascension.pdf

Doug

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When or how did YHWH get pierced?

by Tyre in

i can't found any topic in this forum about this verse.

may be you can enlightened me.. zec 12:10 and i will pour out on the house of david and the inhabitants of jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication.

they will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.

Doug Mason

If you were prepared to read that challenging chapter that I presented in my previous post on this Thread, then you would appreciate the challenges presented in this subsequent chapter.

If however you are not prepared to have your beliefs challenged, do not read this.

http://www.jwstudies.com/Spong_resurrection_ascension.pdf

Doug

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Why I Shouldn't Believe in the Resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth

by XJW4EVR in

when i was a jw, the key issue that caused me to doubt the wt was the trinity.

the wtb&ts's blatent misquotations and misrepresentations of religious scholarship to fit their anti-trinitarian presuppositions are horrid and inexcusable.

that issue, however, was not the issue that caused me to become a christian.

Doug Mason

http://www.jwstudies.com/Spong__Jesus_for_the_Non-religious.pdf

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When or how did YHWH get pierced?

by Tyre in

i can't found any topic in this forum about this verse.

may be you can enlightened me.. zec 12:10 and i will pour out on the house of david and the inhabitants of jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication.

they will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.

Doug Mason

We need to make certain that we do not look at this passage in Zechariah through the eyes of our understanding of the death of Jesus/Yeshua.

Listen for that voice inside your head that is saying, "if you understand Zechariah in such-and-such a way, then look at the implications that will have on your understanding of the nature of Jesus".

Look solely at the local, immediate and direct meaning of the passage, ignoring what John wrote later. His was the last "gospel" written, and was the first to make use of this passage from Zechariah.

Jesus' disciples were faced with the reality that their Leader, instead of leading them as the Messiah to overthrow the Roman overlord had instead been put to death by the Romans. How could they make sense of this? What they did was, as Paul wrote, was to "search the [Hebrew] Scriptures".

In the process, the Christian writers mangled passages to produce stories and explanations that satisfied their concerns. The Jews complained that they were misusing passages that were intended for Jews living at an earlier time. (This developing animosity, in turn, resulted in the later NT writers inserting anti-Semitic sentiments - "his blood be on us and on our children".)

Passages such as this one in Zechariah had an immediate and local application, yet were reworked into stories composed of similarly manipulated texts from the Hebrew Scriptures.

If you do not find those thoughts too challenging and are not frightened to investigate challenging ideas, then I invite you to read a chapter from a book which I have uploaded to:

http://www.jwstudies.com/Spong__Jesus_for_the_Non-religious.pdf

Doug

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Separating the threat to destroy Jerusalem from the Seventy Years

by Doug Mason in

a comment was made that i should have used a better title for my previous thread to make its intent clear.

i am always happy to accept advice.. so here is that post under its new heading.. doug.

a short while ago i provided a 20-page study showing that the destruction of jerusalem was avoidable whereas the seventy years could not be avoided.. i have produced a 4-page condensed version of that study, and it is available at:.

Doug Mason

Hi,

A comment was made that I should have used a better title for my previous thread to make its intent clear. I am always happy to accept advice.

So here is that post under its new heading.

Doug

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A short while ago I provided a 20-page Study showing that the Destruction of Jerusalem was avoidable whereas the Seventy Years could not be avoided.

I have produced a 4-page condensed version of that Study, and it is available at:

http://www.jwstudies.com/What_the_Bible_really_says_about_Jerusalem_s_destruction.pdf

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A condensed version

by Doug Mason in

a short while ago i provided a 20-page study showing that the destruction of jerusalem was avoidable whereas the seventy years could not be avoided.. i have produced a 4-page condensed version of that study, and it is available at:.

http://www.jwstudies.com/what_the_bible_really_says_about_jerusalem_s_destruction.pdf.

doug.

Doug Mason

A short while ago I provided a 20-page Study showing that the Destruction of Jerusalem was avoidable whereas the Seventy Years could not be avoided.

I have produced a 4-page condensed version of that Study, and it is available at:

http://www.jwstudies.com/What_the_Bible_really_says_about_Jerusalem_s_destruction.pdf

Doug